They can ask for a reconsideration by the Appeals Court. They can also petition to be heard by the California State Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court is not obligated to take on the case.
John Davis
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San Diego: Osbaldo Padron v Watchtower
by wifibandit inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case.
tough to build jehovah's witness sex-abuse case.
11. without documents, says plaintiff, he can’t get justice.
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San Diego: Osbaldo Padron v Watchtower
by wifibandit inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case.
tough to build jehovah's witness sex-abuse case.
11. without documents, says plaintiff, he can’t get justice.
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John Davis
The decision was handed down today. The superior court decision was affirmed in whole.
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2 witness rule
by punkofnice ini'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
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John Davis
If the two witness rule is used only for internal discipline I feel it is their right to do that. There is a lot of discussion on this forum and others about how DFing is, so yes there should be a high standard to DF someone. It should be more than just one person who saw someone do something no matter what, because there are false accusations for everything, and yes even for child abuse. If you look at the Irish article that was posted just a few weeks ago there was a case where the authorities couldn't bring charges against the person suspected fo child abuse because there was no corroborating evidence and the only other witness recanted their statement.
Second is in most civilized societies the purpose of prison is not just to punish someone but to keep the community safe and to try and get the person to become rehabilitated. That is why they are called correctional facilities because the hope is to correct someone's attitude and actions. Those who commit child abuse are let out into society and they should be given a right to try and live a normal life. They aren't allowed to work in professions that allow them easy access to those that are vulnerable, but that doesn't mean that they have forfeited their right to live as a human forever. Once they have completed the mandated time they should be allowed to continue on in their life and that includes joining voluntary associations.
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the GB's coup of the FDS
by Magnum ini believe the gb's takeover of the fds was an illegal coup - not illegal relative to the laws of land, but illegal according to jw "laws" or doctrine.. according to jw doctrine, the fds is god's channel of communication between heaven and earth.
before the coup, the fds was defined to be all the anointed on earth, and the gb was part of that group and merely the spokesman for the group - individual gb members having no more authority than non-gb members of the fds.. however, a few years ago, the gb, independently of the other members of the fds, decided that it alone was the fds.
that, to me, was an illegal overthrow of the body (fds); it was a coup.. suppose the u.s. president decided that he has all power, and that he removed the powers of the u.s. congress.
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John Davis
It can't be by definition a coup because the rest of the FDS under the old understanding had no authority over the activities of JWs.
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Does anyone have info on the guy that sued Jw in Canada
by poopie inbecause he was shunned by his customers?.
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John Davis
Does anyone know when the court is expected to publish their decision. I know the US Supreme Court generally release their decisions in a row towards the end of their term.
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What would you do for next November 5?
by Faded ini think everything has to start somewhere, and you can see the passion and commitment from those loyal 50 that showed up in warwick yesterday.
the event was not very well organized but you could see the passion & dedication from most of them.
and i think they at least touched a couple of people at the kh yesterday.. having an annual day of action actually inspires me.
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John Davis
My question though is what would you consider as a win in these types of protests? When will you say it is done and we won? How can you know if your tactic is working or if you have to make an adjustments or stick with what you are doing?
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November 2017 JW broadcasting HYPOCRISY!
by stuckinarut2 inok...so i am on a bit of a temper tantrum rant here...but if anyone has (endured) watched this month's broadcast, you will know what i mean!.
i have only watched 20 mins so far, and the hypocrisy is mind blowing.
they dare to go on about how thoroughly they research the material produced, so that errors are prevented etc.. for instance, the actually say how they ensure that a scientist is not misquoted, or that an "evolutionist" is not inaccurately quoted to make it seem like his comments are different to his intentions.
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John Davis
I never said that the change is good or bad, either if it is adequate or not. I am just presenting the fact because people keep forgetting that this change was made.
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November 2017 JW broadcasting HYPOCRISY!
by stuckinarut2 inok...so i am on a bit of a temper tantrum rant here...but if anyone has (endured) watched this month's broadcast, you will know what i mean!.
i have only watched 20 mins so far, and the hypocrisy is mind blowing.
they dare to go on about how thoroughly they research the material produced, so that errors are prevented etc.. for instance, the actually say how they ensure that a scientist is not misquoted, or that an "evolutionist" is not inaccurately quoted to make it seem like his comments are different to his intentions.
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John Davis
They have adjusted the policy on two witnesses for child abuse. The last update is that the 2 witness rule will still apply for internal dealings, but that regardless of the matter can be substantiated or not if the law requires it to be reported it will be reported to the proper secular and law enforcement authorities.
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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!
by Crazyguy inspoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
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John Davis
It may also not just be disturbing the peace. It may also be criminal mischief and trespassing. Also in many states and countries to record someone visually or audible there needs to be two party consent.
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Does anyone have info on the guy that sued Jw in Canada
by poopie inbecause he was shunned by his customers?.
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John Davis
It would actually have to be more than just telling someone not to do business with someone. If that was the case than organizations that call for boycotts of businesses would be liable. It would have to be saying that and adding slander, such as don't do business with that person because he is an adulterer when the person is not. That would be a tort claim.